Forums Splitboards Furberg 172 / Kwicker BC / Compass Boots
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  • #785771
    Matt Fritz
    4 Posts

    I wanted to take a minute to share my new setup for this year. It is a 2016 Furberg 172 Freeride Split with K2 Kwicker BC bindings and K2 Compass Boots.

    The Kwicker bindings make things really light and compact.

    I’ve been out on it three times now and really excited about how it rides and tours.

    Here is a little info about me. I’m 6’6″ tall and weight 195 lbs. I wear size 13 boots. My stance is ~22″ wide with +15°/-5° angles. I’m also setback about 1″ from the center of the mounting holes. I’ve snowboarded a long time and this is my third year on a split board. Last year I rode a Never Summer Heritage X 166 that I split myself with a Voile DIY kit and used some Union bindings. I liked the NS board, but broke it right where the touring brackets mount when I stepped off into some really deep powder.

    I definitely like my new setup better than my old one. It tours much better. I notice it is much lighter and I can hold a better edge. I think the boots and bindings are stiffer in this direction.

    I also love the way it rides. I boots and bindings feel very similar to straps for me. I don’t have any problem with heal lift and the stiffness riding feels right. I think I’m lucky because the boots seem to fit me really well. I like the way it rides so well, I’m thinking of getting a set of kwicker bindings for my resort board. It is nice how easy it is to get my back foot out to skate up a little hill and then click it right back in to ride away. I’ve not had any problem with ice clogging up the bindings but need to be out in some colder weather to really test it.

    The 172 Furberg is just the right width for my size 13 feet and stance. If it were any narrower I’d be worried about toe drag. I rode both hard packed snow and a foot of powder. The Furberg turned easily and floated in the powder much better than my old board. Maybe it is just the longer board but I think the shape has something to do with it too.

    I know a lot of people don’t like step in bindings, but I want to share my experiences because it could be useful to some who may be considering them. I’ve learned a lot on this forum and want to contribute what I can.

    Take care,
    Matt

    #785944
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    Hmm… that’s kinda interesting. I seem to recall circa 2004 that some people, including I think Mr. @bcrider himself were mounting clicker bindings on voile baseplates. The setup kinda fizzled because maybe K2 discontinued the clicker? I can’t remember. Also just in general people felt that clickers gave less control than soft boots + highbacks and none of the advantages of hard boots. I would love to hear your take on Kwickers vs soft boots and Kwickers vs. hard boots and what makes you stoked on the setup. Also I would love your take on whether step-ins have improved to the point where people should reconsider them.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #785948
    Scooby2
    610 Posts

    SanFran, weight was one issue. The old clicker boots were around a pound heavier per foot for the Ace (with the highback) and about the same weight (mid 3lbs) for the ones that did not have a highback built onto them so they were fine for great snow days (like the K2 Firebird), not so great when you needed a lot of heelside edging. Some of the boots that had the built in highback as opposed to the external ones were close to or over 5lbs per boot so they were not boots for long days.

    Matt, glad you are getting a great fit, mine are super comfortable and should perform better since I added foam padding over my instep-probably just an issue with my feet as my partner also got a great fit in his from the start.

    #785982
    Matt Fritz
    4 Posts

    I’ve now been out 5 days with my new setup. Monarch opens this Friday, so I plan to get in a lot more riding this weekend. I’m still really liking it.

    Here are some weights from my old and new boots / bindings.

    I’m now about 3/4 of a pound lighter per foot.

    I also, like the compactness of the kwicker bindings for touring. I can walk with my feet as close together as I want.

    Here is a list of things I like about the Kwickers.

    1). Boots are very comfortable. My heel is locked down better than any boots I’ve been in before. The boa works well for me. I leave it a little loose on the way up and tighten it for the way down.

    2). Touring is easier than before. Lighter weight, more compact, less slop in touring bracket and boot is stiffer side to side for edging.

    3). Transition is easier because of not messing with the pin and stepping in instead of sitting down and strapping in.

    4). Stiffness of the boot riding feels the same as my old boots and bindings.

    Here are a few small annoyances.

    1). With the boa tightened down, it is a little harder to walk around.

    2). When touring, I sometimes get a squeaking noise from the touring bracket. I think it is from the interface between the metal ring on the bindings and the plastic bushing on the touring bracket. I may try some type of lubricant. I hope the plastic bushing doesn’t wear out quickly.

    I know my old bindings are far from state of the art, but that is what I have to compare against. Also, I was able the get new boots and bindings for less money than state of the art bindings alone.

    I’ve never used the old K2 clickers or hard boots, so I can’t help there.

    Matt

    #785983
    Taylor
    791 Posts

    Hey Matt – I’m in (nice and snowy) Salida too; we should shred sometime.

    Nice review. I was skeptical of this system when it first came out, but between your review and Scooby’s earlier one, it seems like this is a pretty functional (and reasonably priced) option that in many ways splits the difference between traditional soft boot and AT set ups. What unit is your scale measuring in?

    I sure like that 172 too; I have a solid.

    The problem with the old clicker system was ice and boots. The old system would ice up pretty badly requiring picking and scraping. I think this was more a problem for resort riding where one is stepping into and out of the binding far more frequently than touring. Other than that, the binding, in my experience was well designed (built by Shimano, of course it was). I still see them around, and know some devotees who are on the same 20-year old pairs. I saw numerous boot failures though, where the cleats would pull, which is scary.

    Taylor

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    #785984
    Matt Fritz
    4 Posts

    Taylor,

    I would love to shred sometime.

    The scale measures ounces, so my size 13 boot and binding weighs 67.5 oz or 4 lb 3.5 oz.

    So far no icing problems, but I admit that, I’m nervous at the top every time I step in. I think “Is this the time that it won’t click and everyone will be waiting around while I try to figure out what is wrong?” I definitely need more time to get some confidence in it.

    Matt

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