Forums Boots Dynafit TLTs: Initial Impressions Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total) Author Posts December 2, 2014 at 11:22 pm #580402 JTMaine 29 Posts One session, two long ascents and descents. Ranger toepieces, which worked fine. For me, the TLTs were awesome going up and not so great going down. I come to splitting from a surfing and kiteboarding background, so maybe I’m very used to a “surfy” feel. In any case, without SERIOUS (perhaps impossible) modifications, I wouldn’t use these boots again for splitting. For me, they felt all wrong while riding. It was work…. I’ll go back to softboots and my Spark setup. Many experienced and avid splitters use TLTs and love them and I totally respect that. It’s just that FOR ME, softboots give more feel and pleasure. I’ll live with the additional weight. So I’ll save my TLTs for some alpine AT gear that I may eventually get….. More Gear!! December 3, 2014 at 12:57 am #678607 JimmyC 351 Posts Just curious, did you ride your TLTs without mods? It you did, I think that would be an unpleasant experience for most folks. That said, it does sounds like you are making the right decision for your riding style and preference. I really, really, like my Dynafit setup but I have to admit that a soft boot feels like bliss on the descent. December 3, 2014 at 2:09 am #678608 JTMaine 29 Posts JimmyC; Thanks for your thoughts. Other than removing the outer plastic tongue, I haven’t done anything to the TLTs. I’m going to check out what others have done to theirs–lots of info here on that topic, I think. I’m hesitant to do any major mods that can’t be reversed in case I do end up using them for AT gear. I could mod them beyond recognition and still dislike the ride, thus completely wasting a chunk of change. It’s great that we have options in gear to suit different styles and preferences. However, it’s too bad there isn’t usually a realistic way to try it before you buy it. December 3, 2014 at 4:44 am #678609 buell 534 Posts @JTMaine wrote: JimmyC; I could mod them beyond recognition and still dislike the ride, thus completely wasting a chunk of change. It’s great that we have options in gear to suit different styles and preferences. However, it’s too bad there isn’t usually a realistic way to try it before you buy it. This is all true. Stock AT boots are made for skiing. They have stiff enough forward flex to drive the tips of the skis and stiff enough lateral flex to put the skis on edge. Some AT boots are softer than others, but most need modifications for most riders. Fortunately there are a few pairs that are simple to modify and work quite well for snowboarding. Compared to skiers, snowboarders need more ankle flex to bend their knees and more lateral flex to shift their weight up and down the long axis of the board. This is why we modify our AT boots. Modified boots combined with bindings that offer lateral flex and inward cant allow most AT boot splitters to achieve a nice, balanced position and good lower leg movement for great riding. That does not mean they are for everyone. Unfortunately, it does mean if you wanted to be sure, you have to soften them up. December 3, 2014 at 5:54 am #678610 Taylor 794 Posts Thanks for sharing JTMaine. As a fellow rider with a very surfy style, and a penchant for abundant ankle flex, I fully appreciate your dilemma. I’m going all-in this season on phantom and AT, and though I’m no stranger to more rigid hard boots from alpine racing, for splitting I want a surfy, flexy feel–and I fear the same result you had. The make or break for me will be surfy, flexy ride-mode performance. The more I research, the more it seems Scarpa Alien is the safest bet for some of us, owing to its super soft flex and 60* range of motion. By all I’ve read, it has far more flex and ROM than other AT boots, placing it in a class of its own. By reports, this precludes the need for mods even. It’s too bad there’s not a way for you to trade the tlts for a pair of Aliens to try, though obviously you’ll have no shortage of fun on the softies. @sun_rocket December 3, 2014 at 2:08 pm #678611 JTMaine 29 Posts Those Scarpa Aliens caught my eye too….but I doubt I’ll go to the trouble and expense of ANOTHER hardboot after my TLT experience. My softboot setup works fine and as long as I’m keeping up with my pals on the ascent, there’s no reason to change. Another particular factor for me is snowkiting. Occasionally I have to skin on splitboard to a kite site. Can’t imagine snowkiting in hardboots, but I’m sure some people are doing it and loving it. (To be clear, hardboots obviously work out great for some folks and I don’t want to appear to be stepping on their toepieces…… A lot of these guys have way more knowledge and experience than I’ll ever have.) One cool thing I saw on another thread was a softboot mod to accept tech toe piece! Now THAT would be a killer solution. Thanks for the comments and tips, everyone. December 3, 2014 at 10:06 pm #678612 Zude 367 Posts My Siderals came with multiple lean plates (not so with tlts?) If you don’t at least mod the lean plate i can’t imagine you would get enough forward lean. I filed down the lean plate, extended the strap and put eliminator tonges in my Siderals. The only issue i se with these boots is the stiff backward flex (which i may be able to dampen). I have no interest in AT skiing and have used boots, so i’ve gone hog wild on mine for mod’s. The Aliens realy do look like a good option… December 4, 2014 at 3:03 am #678613 christoph benells 717 Posts i’d say give it another try. little tweaks go a long ways. I would like to see more people using a boot/binding quiver. I ride hard boots when its called for, and i ride soft boots when it is better for soft boots. Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic.