Forums Boots Dynafit TLT6 / Atomic Platinum
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  • #795456
    neni
    43 Posts

    We’ll soon get Phantom/Dynafit set up for our splits and are now on the Odyssey for boots. After reading here, I had the TLT6, La Sportiva Sideral, Scarpa Aliens and Arcteryx on the search list.
    We haven’t been able to find the later three, but the TLT6.

    We’re totally new to this type of boots, I don’t know yet what is a “good” fit. Should they be very snug like soft boots? Rather too snug when new and will wear out soon and give more room?

    I’ve a 24.5/8cm foot and usually wear mondo 25 soft boots; the shop guy said that touring boots should rather be sized up (true?); the 25 TLT was comfy, plenty of free room in the toe box… good? Bad? I think there’s bit much free space around the ancles; should the liner be snug there as well? I cannot actually move/slip with the foot, but it just does not feel anything as snug as my Deeluxe XV boots. Should I try to find a 24.5?

    For the hubby OTOH (mondo size 27 feet), the TLT 27.5 CL was way too narrow. They had a 28.5 CR, which he felt comfy with the width, but this seems like quite a big sizing up. Other sizes we will have to order. Will a CL have more room? So ordering a 28 CL makes sense?

    He had tried an Atomic Platinum as well which did fit his wide feet very well. Is that boot a reasonable option for split set up as well?

    Thanks for any hint!

    Jones Solution 152 / Phantom Alpha / Dynafit TLT6 Mountain CL
    (Spark Afterburner / Deeluxe XV)

    #795460
    vapor
    350 Posts

    I’ve been riding Dynafits since early 2000. In my opinion hardboots have a little less leeway in fit than softboots esp in width. I’ve always gone with a snug fit when riding and sizing up might pose a problem when things start packing out.
    Heat moulding and different liner volume can adjust a bit for shell size but like to run the smallest shell size I can get away with

    #795544
    neni
    43 Posts

    Thanks Vapor. I’ve tried the TLT6 size 25 boot again, now with my custom insoles and now it fit pretty perfectly. Bought them; stoked! 🙂 Very curious to try the set-up on snow!

    Hubby is less lucky. The Dynafit are simply too narrow for his Hobbit feet. Any thought on the Atomic Platinum? Is it a split suitable boot? Any other recommendations for rather wide feet?

    Jones Solution 152 / Phantom Alpha / Dynafit TLT6 Mountain CL
    (Spark Afterburner / Deeluxe XV)

    #795546
    snowsnowsnow
    54 Posts

    There’s a post about the Scott Orbit II made on here not too long ago. They look promising for wider feet. When I make the change to hardboots I think that is the direction I will go if I can’t fit the TLT6

    #797959
    neni
    43 Posts

    So I go the this year’s TLT6 Mountain CL. It fits my foot nicely without pressure points.

    Now how about heat molding?

    The guy in the shop meant that it’s not necessary to mold them if it fits. I shall come back after some days using it to have ir molded once it broke in. Is this the correct way to do it?

    I’ve read at other places that one should heat mold before using to get the best results. Was the shop guy trying to avoid further work or is he right? Or shall I go back to the shop and get it molded right away?

    Jones Solution 152 / Phantom Alpha / Dynafit TLT6 Mountain CL
    (Spark Afterburner / Deeluxe XV)

    #797966
    summersgone
    817 Posts

    Heat molding reduces hot spots and makes breaking in faster. Typically, around 5 days of touring the boot would be the same as heat molding out of the box is what I’ve heard. My opinion is that if you can tour with no hot spots or blisters, no need to heat mold them. If you get them, try and mold them to reduce that as much as possible.

    I heat molded right from the start because they felt slightly off. I could tell walking all day was going to not feel great. I had a few pressure points and we reduced that with heat molding. If they fit and comfortable, I don’t see a need to do that.

    One area that I found heat molding helpful was the toe box. My toes were a bit jammed and putting the large toe box made it very comfortable after. As splitboarders you don’t need it super tight like skiers for a “performance” fit. I heat molded and still also get a few hot spots around the heel still, but they aren’t super bad. Every ski boot is different. My TLT5s had no hot spots, then my 6s have hot spots. So its a bit weird (or maybe my foot is weirder now).

    #798839
    WhitePine
    503 Posts

    There are lots of different types of foams in boot liners. Depending on the one you have, you may not generate enough heat from hiking around to deform the foam permanently as you would from having it heat molded. Thus you are likely not going to get as comfortable of a fit. I have the TLT6 C-One boot for skiing and I bought some used TLT5 Mountain boots for splitboarding to perform serious experimental surgery on. I didn’t want to drop the money on brand new boots knowing that I was going to potentially destroy them with my hardboot experiment. So I use my TLT6 C-One liner in the TLT5s and swap it back and forth if I decide I want to ski.

    I can only speak for my version of the boot liner which requires heat molding to get it right. I went to a proper boot fitter and even have an orthotic in there. They are amazing on the uphill. Way comfier when hiking. The main problem is on the down until you do the appropriate mods to make it feel the way you want it to. I think I just got it to the right point today (after some serious cutting and filing). Look at Phantom’s Boot mod page for suggestions. But only mod a little at a time until its right where you want it. If you cut too much there is no “undo” button.

    #800538
    neni
    43 Posts

    A follow-up question considering the TLT6: how does one avoid that snow leaks into the shell?
    Was walking around in deep snow (boot in walk mode) and got a lot of snow entering into the shell, and thus the liner got soaked. The gaitor of the pants protects the boot leg, but in walking mode, the shell has clefts between the tongue and lower shell… am I doing something wrongly? Or is this just part of the game? Does one have to keep the boot in riding mode if one has to bootpack through deep snow?

    Jones Solution 152 / Phantom Alpha / Dynafit TLT6 Mountain CL
    (Spark Afterburner / Deeluxe XV)

    #800553
    summersgone
    817 Posts

    No, you don’t need to keep the boots in ride mode boot packing. Do whatever you feel is more comfortable. I usually have mine in walk mode, unless it is super steep and I want extra highback support, like with verts or steep crampons where I need my foot locked into the slope I’ll sometimes lock down, but typically I do not.

    As for the snow, I have holes all through mine from the phantom mods, and I don’t seem to have the issues you have said. Without pictures how you are setup, its hard to say if you are doing something wrong. With me, sometimes a bit of snow may get in, but it never affects the inside of my liner, only slightly on the outside, which is fine to me and doesn’t cause any issues. Now if i’m wading across a creek, that may be different. I just put the gaiter around the cuff and keep my pants down and have no issues. If you aren’t using laces, maybe try adding them as well.

    #800561
    neni
    43 Posts

    With me, sometimes a bit of snow may get in, but it never affects the inside of my liner, only slightly on the outside, which is fine to me and doesn’t cause any issues.

    Hmmm… are the liners water resistant? (Sorry, may be a dumb question… I’m a noob to AT boots). I have the CL liner, btw, and haven’t done any hole mods to the shell yet.

    My feet were wet that day… however, we had hip deep snow that day when I recognized the leaking, and I could be that my feet run hot from all the wading through that very deep snow (avy refresh course… beacon search n snow pit digging exercises… the guide seemed to enjoy making us “run” around in that deep, lol)

    Jones Solution 152 / Phantom Alpha / Dynafit TLT6 Mountain CL
    (Spark Afterburner / Deeluxe XV)

    #800564
    SkateBananas
    178 Posts

    Here is the mod that allows you to lock the upper cuff (that should tighten up any space allowing snow in) but doesnt lock you into ski mode.

    https://www.wildsnow.com/6371/dynafit-tlt5-buckle-mod/

    #800571
    summersgone
    817 Posts

    Ok, I could potentially see if I was boot packing around low elevation wet snow that my feet could get wet, but in general splitboarding circumstances, no I don’t get wet. I’m not sure if they are water resistant or what.

    #800578
    buell
    534 Posts

    My feet just get wet in AT boots from sweat. Every tour. My wife’s feet stay pretty dry. Plastic doesn’t breath very well for me apparently.

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