Forums DIY and Mods DIY with Prowder and Helicoil
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  • #580375
    Splitinbend
    242 Posts

    I finished my new DIY project for my wife. I decided I didn’t want to drill and sand all the holes for t-nuts and epoxy so I used the prowder kit and put helicoils in for the touring pieces. Here is how it came out. Im pleased. All in all, the clips and hooks are solid. It took a hell of a time trying to figure out how to successfully install all the parts but after all is said and done it looks solid.

    #678518
    Matt Wood
    328 Posts

    Nice work

    #678519
    iriecoyote
    291 Posts

    Very nice. Did you get it waterjetted in Bend? Where’d you go and how much $$$? Did you order the Prowder bits online or did you find them here (Bend)?

    #678520
    maniacdave
    564 Posts

    Trick. Is it possible to use Voile hardware with the Prowder plates? Doesn’t look like any overlap between the plates like the Karakorum stuff to prevent that. Got tons of Voile hooks and clips kicking around, would be nice to build a board without a single t-nut for pucks though.

    That was Pontus

    #678521
    Splitinbend
    242 Posts

    @stuka wrote:

    Very nice. Did you get it waterjetted in Bend? Where’d you go and how much $$$? Did you order the Prowder bits online or did you find them here (Bend)?

    No water jet just my saw and I got the prowder stuff down at crows feet here in town.

    @maniacdave wrote:

    Trick. Is it possible to use Voile hardware with the Prowder plates? Doesn’t look like any overlap between the plates like the Karakorum stuff to prevent that. Got tons of Voile hooks and clips kicking around, would be nice to build a board without a single t-nut for pucks though.

    So voile slider plates work just fine on the prowder pucks/saddles. There’s no overlap in the saddles but the clips do have some slight overlap.

    #678522
    iriecoyote
    291 Posts

    Damn clean kerf, holmsie. Good to know they got some at crows feet, I’ll get em there too.

    #678523

    Looks like it turned out great! Really clean on the base without the extra holes :thatrocks:

    Which type of helicoils did you use? If you used the really wide wood specific ones, you should be ok. We accidentally used the heli coils for metal insert repair (we found out after we installed them of course haha) which are the correct thread pitch to work with the regular snowboard/voile hardware bolts. They held up ok, except when you fall. The issue was that when you tip over, the toe of the boot would pry against the touring bracket, and rip the heli coils right out, bringing the wood and epoxy with them.

    If you used the proper ones, you might be ok, but I would just let the lady know to be very careful of over extending (typically in a fall) and pushing the toe of the boot on the board.

    #678524
    Splitinbend
    242 Posts

    @chair2boardsports wrote:

    Looks like it turned out great! Really clean on the base without the extra holes :thatrocks:

    Which type of helicoils did you use? If you used the really wide wood specific ones, you should be ok. We accidentally used the heli coils for metal insert repair (we found out after we installed them of course haha) which are the correct thread pitch to work with the regular snowboard/voile hardware bolts. They held up ok, except when you fall. The issue was that when you tip over, the toe of the boot would pry against the touring bracket, and rip the heli coils right out, bringing the wood and epoxy with them.

    If you used the proper ones, you might be ok, but I would just let the lady know to be very careful of over extending (typically in a fall) and pushing the toe of the boot on the board.

    Good to know, the thread was for the m6 threads, not sure if that will be the narrow ones. Hopefully the rughty binders I got for her won’t have the toe hang to pry them up. Appreciate the heads up. Cheers.

    #678525
    rughty
    620 Posts

    Toe ramps could provide an extra safeguard if you are worried about prying those inserts out. Good to see those conversions are still out there getting used!

    #678526
    Chewbacca
    97 Posts

    The wood insert look like this:

    Wood thread on the outside, M6 on the inside

    Otherwise not a good idea.

    Tony

    #678527
    Splitinbend
    242 Posts

    @chewbacca wrote:

    The wood insert look like this:

    Wood thread on the outside, M6 on the inside

    Otherwise not a good idea.

    Tony

    That’s a quiverkiller, I used helicoil.

    #690160
    Chewbacca
    97 Posts

    If you used this kind helicoil:

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    they are meant for metal.

    Their threads are not deep enough and don’t really dig into the wood enough .

    Basically the heli-coils are epoxied in.

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