Forums Splitboard Talk Forum Crampons.. yeah, or nay?
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  • #570977
    SPLITRIPPIN
    709 Posts

    So, check it… I’ve got wicked powder wood for the scrubfest :thumbsup: …

    Any you monkey huckers bring Crampons? I mean the boot pack type. I’ve got them for glacial traverses in split, but I’m talking straight up the mountain action.

    I plan on hooking up with Will from R&D in Bozeman, so I can always buy a pair from him..

    anyhoo… later baters :doobie:

    #612770
    bcrider
    4149 Posts

    You’re confusing me man. You seem to be asking if you should bring boot crampons (my answer would be yes…bring the axe too, you can always leave them in the car if you don’t need them) but then you say you’ll get some from Will which makes me think you’re talking about split crampons. :scratch:

    Does Will sell boot crampies too?

    #612771
    SPLITRIPPIN
    709 Posts

    My bad.. I thought will did make those…

    Yeah boot crampers…

    #612772
    split.therapy
    455 Posts

    If your hoping/planning on doing any serious lines in the Park you’ll want them for sure. Like Rider said an ice axe is a good idea as well.

    #612773
    SPLITRIPPIN
    709 Posts

    What’s a good type/brand you all use? I’ve never had the use for them…

    #612774
    Ecobrad
    2068 Posts

    @splitrippin wrote:

    What’s a good type/brand you all use? I’ve never had the use for them…

    Soft or hard boots?

    If soft, the most common crampon I see and use is the Stubai Ultralite Universal Crampons. They’re aluminum so they’re light but they will break down faster than steel ones. The rational that they’re great for splitters is that we generally keep them on snow cause we basically climb up couloirs or other steep snow filled bowls like that. For more general mountaineering type stuff you may want to consider something else. I think the other strap binding people use is the BD Contact. The thing to make sure is that a fat snowboarding soft boot will fit in the hell cup and toe piece.

    I have no idea about hard boots.

    #612775
    96avs01
    875 Posts

    @splitrippin wrote:

    What’s a good type/brand you all use? I’ve never had the use for them…

    Grivel G10 wides work good for snowboard boots. If you ride in a mountaineering boot go for the G12s.

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #612776
    split.therapy
    455 Posts

    @splitrippin wrote:

    I’ve never had the use for them…

    Get yourself an ice axe and learn to self arrest with axe/crampons and axe/board. :thumpsup:

    #612777
    SPLITRIPPIN
    709 Posts

    I’ve got an ice axe.. good ol’ Red 457 back when Burton was diddling with it’s own backcountry line. Well it’s actually made by BD I’m sure. Hell even when I was out at Ruedis place SME in Revelstoke… It wasn’t even necessary there.

    You forget therapy.. I’m from Minnesota. If I wanted to practice self arrest.. I’d either have to crawl up a sky scraper, or pull out my goods in public :bananas: …. get it “self arrest” :nononno: bad joke I know

    #612778
    ghaniman
    100 Posts

    i have used splitboard crampons but do not recommend them for ice…crusty snow is ok but split crampons will slide out on the blue ice….

    i have used the grivel G10 wides and they are great for soft boots..my current touring crampon is the grivel air tech lite,which is super lite aluminium and good for rocks as well..weighs almost nothing…but has a narrow boot profile

    make sure your ice axe is compatible, ie the right length for your height if it is a touring axe…

    learning to ice arrest..make sure your run out zone has soft snow as once you start to slide..you go fast, the ice axe can bounce back if you push down too hard on the ice, makes for a great forehead tattoo…..enjoy

    #612779
    96avs01
    875 Posts

    @ghaniman wrote:

    i have used the grivel G10 wides and they are great for soft boots..my current touring crampon is the grivel air tech lite,which is super lite aluminium and good for rocks as well..

    Really, Al crampons are good on rock? Given what sustained mixed climbing does to my steel pons, I have to ask how many seasons have you used the Air Tech Al pons with this approach?

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #612780
    stoudema
    551 Posts

    I’ve had good luck with my Grivel Air Tech light crampons, but use them only for hard snow (no rocks). I’m afraid they’d wear out in a few trips if used for much mixed climbing, but they have held up well so far. I recently bought a pair of G12’s (new classic style), and am looking forward to using them on Hood this year when the weather is better (last year I had to skirt around the rocky portions of the climb while my buddy went straight up the rocks with his steel ‘pons.

    If you’re mainly going to be encountering snow, lightweight aluminum crampons may serve your purpose and be lighter in your pack (making you less likely to leave them at the trailhead). Otherwise go steel. I’ve had no problems with my size 9 Drivers and the Grivel heel cups. The fit is secure.

    #612781
    ghaniman
    100 Posts

    the type of touring i do does not involve “climbing” but mainly accessing terrain easily but safely, my comment was to the fact that these crampons can be left on when i walk across an exposed rocky ridge, and then back on to the snow…they do have a serrated edge on some points

    as to wear and tear i would expect them to last 60 days on the snow let alone rock, about 3 seasons for me when they would be used 20 days a year….and they dont give you that 100% secure feeling on our famous boilerplate, so no toe pointing or major exposure..if its serious ice, i dont bother…… anymore…

    #612782
    dude_reino
    467 Posts

    Better to have and not need than to need and not have. :thumpsup:

    #612783
    96avs01
    875 Posts

    @luca_brasi wrote:

    Better to have and not need than to need and not have. :thumpsup:

    IMHO, Heed this man’s advice :headbang:

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #612784
    split.therapy
    455 Posts

    ” Hell even when I was out at Ruedis place SME in Revelstoke… It wasn’t even necessary there.” You never know what kind of terrain you may want to tackle. If conditions are right there are some amazing couloirs in the park that carrying an axe is good idea.

    “You forget therapy.. I’m from Minnesota. If I wanted to practice self arrest.. I’d either have to crawl up a sky scraper, or pull out my goods in public :bananas: …. get it “self arrest” :nononno: bad joke I know”
    Last I heard you were come out here. Plenty of places to learn to self arrest out my back window’s view. Even more up at Togwotee Pass.

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