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  • #566934
    KK
    36 Posts

    well it looks like Quiksilver’s purchase of Rossignol earlier in the year is now starting to play out on the Mervin end… this just in from a deep source… “PA” refers to the Port Angeles factory… Quik has owned Mervin since Nov ’96

    “Pink slips flying around Seattle. Offices moving to Utah. Manufacturing
    going overseas to Rossi (not announced but obvious). Looks like they are
    keeping PA open for now. Probably more of a marketing tool so they can
    still say Northwest. Just like Burton uses VT. Looks like others may
    finally be seeing what we have known for a while. Gnu & Lib boards will
    still be in the shops, but Mervin is no longer.”

    your mileage may vary, KK

    #583793
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Interesting KK.

    It’s really too bad when such innovative guys like Mike Olson (Mervin) and Jake Burton loose their love and focus for the sport of snowboarding. 🙁

    ps. did you make contact with cowboy? he was looking for you. hope all is well!

    #583794
    dishwasher-dave
    460 Posts

    the mervin shift is extra interesting considering their advertising campaign of the last several years emphasizing the fact that their boards were made in WA by snowboarders. with the usual mervin style they have been pretty harsh on imported stuff and corporate crap. sadly ironic to see this great company go down that very path. it seems that mervin folks were reading the writing on the walls and dissing their own corporate owners plans.

    #583795
    jack
    323 Posts

    @dishwasher-dave wrote:

    it seems that mervin folks were reading the writing on the walls and dissing their own corporate owners plans.

    or they have really clever PR?

    who knows…..

    #583796
    Spencer
    128 Posts

    This Article says they are moving from Seattle to someplace named Carlsborg, WA.

    I say “god bles’em if they can keep the manufacture in the states, or North America at least, Europe would be okay too. Somewhere with some, any enviromental and workplace safety regulations.”

    Ta, S

    http://www.clallam.org/about/news-articles.html?id=60

    #583797
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    more changes at Mervin…

    they’re making really narrow snowboards. 😉

    http://www.lib-tech.com/news/2005/10/nas/nas.htm

    #583798
    dtimms
    28 Posts

    I don’t know how i feel about that. i’m not against skiing but lib was one of those companies that snowboarders held true to their hearts as hard core snowboards. i don’t hate skiing in any way but i feel like lib tech sold out. technically they did to quicksilver but it feels like they are losing thier roots. maybe they will ride awesome. i don’t know? good for them. go and make some money!

    #583799
    mtnrider
    740 Posts

    I read an interview with Mike Olson, I believe in Transworld Snowboarding Business. Anyways, I think they decided to make skis because while they were testing the boards with the Magna Traction so many skiers were coming down the hill and begging him to make some skis w/ MT. I don’t feel they sold out at all, its called supply and demand. He happened to invent some cool stuff and why shouldn’t he be able to earn a living off of it. As far as selling to Quiksilver…I’m only bummed about the mentioning above how the boards won’t be made here much anymore. One person can only grow a company so large, I’d be willing to bet he got tired of the daily chores thing and wanted to go back to being more creative. I really can’t speak for him, but I see it more as a moving on to do other things in life rather than him wanting to make a quick buck.

    #583800
    dtimms
    28 Posts

    lib was a company making “snowboards by snowboarders” metallica was a metal band and then they saw the demand for a different style of music so they cut their hair, made videos, and met the demand for a different type of hard rock. that kind of fits into my selling out catagory. i’d still ride a lib but it feels like they are losing their soul. i’m not trying to be argumentive. it just feels kind of funny to have a snowboard only company making skis now. i ain’t mad at ya.

    #583801
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    IMPORTANT UPDATE:

    Although this thread was started by a reliable source, it is basically a rumor and is not an official press release.

    Per a friend that spoke to a Lib and Quicksilver last night. There are no plans to move the company and or production at this time. The only thing that is moving is the sales division, not design, production, or warranty.

    Disclaimer. The above is also not a press release and is just a rumor as well. Hopefully Lib/Mervin will put out something official soon.

    As for snowboard companies making skis and ski companies making snowboards…it’s a competitive market out there and companies have to do whatever is required to pay the bills. It’s not a charity and there are numbers that have to be met for the company to survive. Having said that…I can understand why Mervin is now making skis…I just don’t exactly care for it.

    #583802
    mtnrider
    740 Posts

    @dtimms wrote:

    lib was a company making “snowboards by snowboarders” metallica was a metal band and then they saw the demand for a different style of music so they cut their hair, made videos, and met the demand for a different type of hard rock. that kind of fits into my selling out catagory. i’d still ride a lib but it feels like they are losing their soul. i’m not trying to be argumentive. it just feels kind of funny to have a snowboard only company making skis now. i ain’t mad at ya.

    I didn’t mention anything about who is making their boards. Do you know for a fact that non-snowboarders now make their boards? Unless you’re planning on buying some skis, do you really care if they were “skis made by snowboarders”? If so stick to some Atomics, but then you can’t have Lib’s Magna Traction technology so I don’t think it really affects you much anyways.

    If you feel so strongly about Mervin selling out aren’t you selling out by still supporting their brand/riding a Lib Tech?

    #583803
    dishwasher-dave
    460 Posts

    Those lib skis remind me of that snowboard they used to make with the two ski graphic.

    I have a slightly different take on snowboard companies making skis. Snowboarders and snowboard companies are responsible for all the major ski innovations of the last decade or so (super sidecut, twin tips, inserts, fat skis, terrain parks, no more lycra…etc). Instead of givin those ideas for free to some ski company, snowboard companies might as well profit from them.

    #583804
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    Dishwasher-dave: Right on, man!

    Hey, has anyone out there actually tried this Magna Traction action? Is there something for real there or will it go the way of channel-bottom surfboards?

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #583805
    dtimms
    28 Posts

    all i was saying is i think it feels really weird to have a company like lib tech making skis. i wouldn’t have even thought twice about it if burton made skis. i just think that lib made it’s reputation on being a soul snowboard company. it is probably the same feeling skiers got when their companies started making snowboards. but isn’t going after more money selling out. i don’t think lib tech was going out of business. if lib tech starts making roller blades i will be pissed and not support thier company.

    #583806
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    if lib tech starts making roller blades i will be pissed and not support thier company.

    Right on, man!

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #583807
    lewmt
    570 Posts

    oops

    #583808
    lewmt
    570 Posts

    oops

    #583809
    lewmt
    570 Posts

    Glissade, Voile, & Never Summer are still out there putting out the quality & performance. Once a company goes that huge quality always suffers.

    #583810
    KK
    36 Posts

    ….Mervin has had two manufacturing facilities in WA state for a number of years now. the original factory in Seattle and a 2nd one out on the Olympic Penninsula near Sequim.

    the Seattle factory is closing. that’s not a rumor. 2nd factory will remain open. some production could *possibly* go to the Rossi facilities in France and Spain. some production could go to China. or no production goes anywhere outside of WA state. nobody knows for certain yet.

    Quiksilver also owns DC. there is a new facility being built in Park City, UT that will house sales and marketing for all of Quik’s snow brands, which include Roxy and Quik outerwear as well.

    and SO STOKED they are making skis. Mike Olsen use to make skis at his home with his dad.they would dumpter-dive the K2 factory on Vashon and take home all sorts of scrap material.

    and any splitboarder that has a problem with a snowboard company making skis needs to remember that Voile made skis before boards and Prior makes skis too.

    latr, KK

    #583811
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    @KK wrote:

    any splitboarder that has a problem with a snowboard company making skis needs to remember that Voile made skis before boards and Prior makes skis too.

    I just have a problem with snowboard companies that don’t return emails. 😉

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