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  • #578595
    LP
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    What is the base of a Jones board (mountain twin) made out of?
    I ask the question because I have never seen a base like this before and the Jones website doesn’t offer much help.

    New board 4 days of riding.
    First wax when I got it, then a second wax job after 3 days, because the board slowed down a lot.

    After today’s ride on the second wax job (Awesome spring day in Switzerland, fresh snow, slush and some hard) the base looks to be dry and the wax removed. Is this what happens?

    Do I need to wax more often than other boards?

    Pow pow Bang.

    #667801
    FloImSchnee
    291 Posts

    I’d assume that this phenomenon is rather snow conditions related than board/base related.

    Last weekend my Prior board’s base dried out after only two descents, due to the warm/wet snow conditions.
    In cold winter I only wax it after 15-20 descents.

    #667802
    provotrout
    130 Posts

    @floimschnee wrote:

    I’d assume that this phenomenon is rather snow conditions related than board/base related.

    Last weekend my Prior board’s base dried out after only two descents, due to the warm/wet snow conditions.
    In cold winter I only wax it after 15-20 descents.

    This sounds about right.

    #667803
    Bjorgvin
    74 Posts

    In warmer weather wax is not as important. But getting structure in the base is. Think of it as making trails for the water to escape.

    #667804
    Method
    151 Posts

    I have a jones (solution) and I have examined a few I have seen at trailheads and in shops and they seem to be delivered with the bases really dry, mine included. :nononno: :thumbsdown:

    This made the board a bit slow, waxing didn’t really help and it wasn’t until I took it to a competent board shop that fixed it. I’m not sure what they did, but it was more than a wax, but less than a “structure”.

    I would almost guarantee this is the same issue.

    #667805
    FloImSchnee
    291 Posts

    @method wrote:

    This made the board a bit slow, waxing didn’t really help…

    Did you use hot wax or liquid wax?

    #667806
    Method
    151 Posts

    @floimschnee wrote:

    @method wrote:

    This made the board a bit slow, waxing didn’t really help…

    Did you use hot wax or liquid wax?

    Hot wax. I had it done about 3 times.

    #667807
    philip.ak
    679 Posts

    @floimschnee wrote:

    Last weekend my Prior board’s base dried out after only two descents, due to the warm/wet snow conditions.
    In cold winter I only wax it after 15-20 descents.

    @provotrout wrote:

    This sounds about right.

    Actually, that’s backwards. Cold snow is more abrasive and will erode wax faster than warm snow, especially if it has metamorphosed into rounds.

    #667808
    FloImSchnee
    291 Posts

    @Bjørgvin wrote:

    In warmer weather wax is not as important. But getting structure in the base is. Think of it as making trails for the water to escape.

    I use a nylon brush after hotwaxing to recover the base’s structure.

    Afaik a fine structure would be good in cold temperatures, and a rough structure in warm temperatures.
    Can one create this structure at home (with a steel brush?) or would you need to bring it to a shop to have it created by a machine?

    #667809
    LP
    4 Posts

    Hey thanks for the replies.

    Update: 1 hot wax (DIY) job lasted about 3 days of spring conditions. After the second day the base was looking a feeling dry but not completely dry. On the second day the board was perfect in fresh snow but slow and sluggish in the melting snow lower down the mountain.

    The base seems to be much stronger than normal boards. I hit a few hidden rocks and very little damage done. I now from experiences that a similar rock hit put gouges in the base of my normal board.

    LP

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