Forums Boots Atomic backlands… Thoughts on mods
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  • #823505
    Scooby2
    596 Posts

    Cool! good to hear they will send you parts.

    #823506
    CB
    6 Posts

    Interesting freelock mod. Based on on-carpet flex feel, I was just planning to ride these locked without tongues (maybe a half tongue on the bottom for weather protection), but I guess this would give you the ability to customize the flex based on the tongue alone.

    #823557
    mgco3
    49 Posts

    nice, thanks for sharing! Im excited what you will say after the first days on snow. Please keep us updated =)

    Amplid Milligram 163 and LabCarbon 162, Phantom Alpha 14/15, Atomic Backland, Scott Orbit II
    https://mgco3.wordpress.com, https://www.instagram.com/conathanjumpman/

    #824801
    generalyen
    52 Posts

    I just picked up a pair and I’m super stoked to try them. Has anyone tried moving the lower buckle to the cuff pivot points like the dynafit mod? I know a longer cable would be required.

    #825253
    mgco3
    49 Posts

    I have not (yet?) tried that, but it is a good idea. If you give it a try, please keep me updated =)

    Btw: I had the chance to try my new mod for two days now and it rides well. I am getting stoked on these bootes again

    Amplid Milligram 163 and LabCarbon 162, Phantom Alpha 14/15, Atomic Backland, Scott Orbit II
    https://mgco3.wordpress.com, https://www.instagram.com/conathanjumpman/

    #825259
    tyrudder
    15 Posts

    So word is that phantom is working on a custom lever to dial in preferred forward lean lock. I asked about availability but he’ll be out of town till Christmas so who knows.

    #825266
    buell
    532 Posts

    So word is that phantom is working on a custom lever to dial in preferred forward lean lock. I asked about availability but he’ll be out of town till Christmas so who knows.

    Yes. It is actually a spring system so you can dial in your forward flex. Hopefully it will be out Jan/Feb, but probably a bit later.

    Phantom posted about them in the comments on their instagram post about the Phantom/Spark toepieces.

    #825281
    mgco3
    49 Posts

    That are great news buell! (I did not read the comments carefully enough) but I directly asked to be on the wait list. I am really stoked on this🙌

    Amplid Milligram 163 and LabCarbon 162, Phantom Alpha 14/15, Atomic Backland, Scott Orbit II
    https://mgco3.wordpress.com, https://www.instagram.com/conathanjumpman/

    #825309
    VtVolk
    25 Posts

    Buell, will this mod be specific to Atomic Backlands, or could it be applied to other boots (e.g., Fischer Travers, or others with a similar lock bar)? Sounds promising.

    #825310
    Shane
    5 Posts

    As far as I know the Phantom leaver is for the Atomic range of touring boots not just the Backlands. The Atomic locking leavers are screwed on so can be swapped out easily..

    #825325
    CB
    6 Posts

    So, does anyone have more than a few days riding their backlands with no tongue and locked in ride mode? I’ve ridden my boots a couple time this way and think the flex and lean is perfect, but the blog post about the shell plastic cracking (http://atrailcalledlife.blogspot.com/2017/03/atomic-backland-boot-for-splitboarding.html) has me concerned about durability. Has anyone else had their Backlands fail this way?

    #825347
    buell
    532 Posts

    Buell, will this mod be specific to Atomic Backlands, or could it be applied to other boots (e.g., Fischer Travers, or others with a similar lock bar)? Sounds promising.

    They are specific to the Backlands. You might be able to get them to work on other boots but they are not being designed for that.

    #825348
    buell
    532 Posts

    Here is the Insta comment by Phantom I mentioned earlier:

    ………. In the meantime we are doing what we can with the best of what’s available. We are currently working on a tour/ride mode lever for the Atomic Backlands that will allow you to dial in your preferred forward lean and is springloaded for increased forward flex. Super easy to install since Atomic uses screws and not permanent rivets. We are increasingly recommending the Backlands not only for this reason, but also because of the easy mold-at-home Grilamid shell material and the fact that a lot of people struggle with the narrow fit of boots like the TLTs and Proclines. Feel free to send us an email if you’re interested in joining the waitlist for the new levers. Hope to have a first run of these available by early 2019, possibly as early as January. info@phantomsnow.com

    #825657
    generalyen
    52 Posts

    I finally got out on my backlands and I could see how having a progressive forward lean would be nice. I felt the boot flex a bit but then it just applied a lot of pressure to my shin. Perhaps I’ll try using the power straps and have the cuff a little looser. But all in all it wasn’t bad and the response was amazing. Has anyone cut the lower shell around the pivot point to allow more lateral flex?

    #825977
    Jason4
    442 Posts

    @generalyen I recently picked up a second pair of Backlands and have considered taking the knife to my first pair now that I have a pair to experiment with.

    @CB I have a lot of days in my Backlands now and I’m a heavy guy and haven’t had any failures yet. I know Woods is putting triple digit seasons on his and has gone through a pair every season or so though. I’m not sure what’s failing on his but he keeps going back for more.

    #826573
    buell
    532 Posts

    Info about the Phantom LINK spring system for the Backlands is public now on their instagram.

    Phantom LINK:

    “Designed for #splitboarding, the LINK is a dual suspension tour/ride mode lever that swaps in easily for the stock lever on any @atomicski Backland boot. Provides forward lean adjustment from 6 to 26 degrees as well as increased forward (toe side) flex via a spring with ~1/2” of travel and backward (heel side) damping via a rubber shock with ~1/8” of travel.”

    #826575
    generalyen
    52 Posts

    From the photos on instagram it looks like a pretty durable system. A little too rich for my blood unfortunately.

    #826604
    velca
    3 Posts

    hello

    i just wanted to share with you my diy version of the flexible lever idea. in this case for the backland boot, but obviously applicable to any boot with a similar locking mechanism. It’s based on the various year old existing spring system of alpine carving boots, i had this idea in mind for some time but only some weeks ago during a storm cycle took some time to build it.

    lever image

    coming from softboots and then transitioning to tlt6 and now to backlands, i did not feel a real urgent need to make the backlands softer as to me they are quite rideable the way they are actually, also definitely softer without mods than my modded tlt 6s. so building the lever was more a thing I did out of curiosity and fun. I have some touring days on it now and one day in the resort and like the way it feels. basically it does what it should, gives more “progressive” flex in the front without stressing the shin and quite some dampening on the “highback” which is good. I found the unmodded backlands flex to the front already quite nicely when buckled loosely.. now I can close the buckles more snug which helps me with heel hold. On the photo, the strap-spring looks quite compressed, but the voile strap really has some nice flexing characteristics and there is quite a bit of travel actually. I mean in the end it also comes down to personal preference.. as you can imagine, with this construction, depending on the length of axle and number of strap twists per axle length unit you can create quite a lot of difference flex characteristics. For the first try I dialled in the “spring” twists and axle length by having one foot in the backlands in a Dyno binding and the other in a very soft 32 softboot in a Burner binding mounted on the same board.
    apart from my very rudimentary engineering which yet has to survive the test of time, design flaws include that due to the protruding spring design, the lever cannot flip up the whole 180 degrees in walk mode, it stops at about 130. It doesn’t really bother me though as I mostly had the original lever flipped up outside the pants and so far it hasn’t interferred in any way when touring or hiking. but obviously this is way more elegantly solved in the phantom lever 🙂

    many greets

    #826693
    VtVolk
    25 Posts

    Very cool, Velca! Thanks for posting.

    I’m currently thinking of something similar for my Fischer Travers that allows uninhibited forward flex but a hard, ideally slightly cushioned stop on the heel side. I never thought about a Voile strap as an elastomer, but might give it a try. I ride them unlocked now, and while I love the soft surfy feel, there are times when having no “highback” support is not ideal, like landing in the backseat off a jump. I’d still take too surfy over the too rigid locked feeling any day.

    #826935
    mgco3
    49 Posts

    Hello like-minded,

    I wrote a summary of my backland mods, which ride really good after investing some work:
    Modifying an Atomic Backland boor for Splitboarding

    check it out and feel free to ask!

    Amplid Milligram 163 and LabCarbon 162, Phantom Alpha 14/15, Atomic Backland, Scott Orbit II
    https://mgco3.wordpress.com, https://www.instagram.com/conathanjumpman/

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