Forums Splitboards Voile artisan/palidrome Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 23 total) 1 2 → Author Posts March 3, 2013 at 10:56 pm #578377 boppingshoe 83 Posts wondering what you think of it if you are riding one. I’m looking for an all-around board. Something it’s not too stiff. So mostly I’m interested in the flex. But also I’m wondering how it does on hard pack (riding and climbing). And anything else you’d like to share about the board. March 4, 2013 at 12:05 am #666463 Chair2BoardSports 62 Posts Got a chance to ride the Palindrom. What an awesome ride, its super playfull and has good float in deep stuff. I didnt ride much for hardpack, but it was a tracked out day with about 11″ of fresh at a resort. Didn’t tour on the board, but my current full reverse camber board does decent, I would expect the palindrom to tour slightly better than a standard reverse camber deck. Flex is probably medium-stiff, its no plank, but its certainly no park pickle. After one ride, I would def recommend it to anyone looking for a good pow/all around board. You will sacrific some skinning efficiency, but its a worthy sacrifice for how well it rides on the down. My partner rode the womens artisan board. She commented that it was very stable and playfull, but thought that it was too soft. Keep in mind though, she typically ride a mens 155 reverse camber split, its a Monument Momento Mori, and is one of the sitter boards in the Monument lineup. The mens Artisan is a medium stiff (a little more than the womens board of course) board from talking with their sales rep. March 5, 2013 at 1:11 am #666464 wavy 198 Posts Just won a Artisan at the sb.com Donner split party last weekend (woo-hoo!). Haven’t ridden it yet, but like C2BS I’d describe the flex as “medium”. I’ll try to write up some useful observations after I get it on the snow a few times. Been searching around for reviews of the Artisan myself, seems they are hard to come by. March 5, 2013 at 2:08 am #666465 provotrout 130 Posts I had one for a short bit as well, ended up trading it to a buddy in need that was still riding an old burton split. The fit and finish seemed pretty tight and I was itching to get it out on the slopes.. may end up getting one next year to see how the cam rock differs from the tapered pow board I’m currently on. Very interested in the topsheet/base durability, as they seem to be a good board that’s maybe getting undervalued because of past models. March 5, 2013 at 7:26 am #666466 firstlight 721 Posts Guys Had one of my team riders on a 159 Artisan for the end of our season and he’s just finished a stint in Japow and now heading off to AK for Heli assisted Splitting at Points North. He was going to take a 162 to Japan but stuck with his 159 and said it was great. Taking the 159 to AK from the sounds of things too! He normally rides a 152. I’ll post his write up when sends it to me. From all reports he’s given it a beating and the base and topsheet are still in mint condition , even after some road ridding in JP. Probably the most under rated board of the season. Adam West www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au www.splitfest.com.au www.snowsafety.com.au www.mrbc.com.au www.backcountryglobal.com www.alpinefirstaid.com.au March 6, 2013 at 6:31 am #666467 LPowhuntr 102 Posts @chair2boardsports wrote: You will sacrific some skinning efficiency, but its a worthy sacrifice for how well it rides on the down How so ? Just wondering cause I’m considering a Voile Palindrome and trying to get some info on it, not too much out there about that board. March 6, 2013 at 6:38 pm #666468 Chair2BoardSports 62 Posts One thing to keep in mind also is that Voile is building boards almost completely different than they have in the past. They bought out a company (which the name escapes me) for the sole purpose of putting the board designer at that company to work for them. The new line of boards in on par if not better than any factory split on the market. Whatever had or has been said in the past about Voile boards is stricken from the record, they are a totally new board with a completely new design and team behind them. I may sound a little biased, but I do not ride nor work for Voile, I just met their in house sales rep in person at VertFest last week and we chatted for quite some time about their new boards. He let me take a few laps on the palindrome and I loved it, and I also got to chat with Neil Provo who has been recently added to their team about his board and what they have been working on. It’s just all around good stuff and good folks. @lpowhuntr wrote: @chair2boardsports wrote: You will sacrific some skinning efficiency, but its a worthy sacrifice for how well it rides on the down How so ? Just wondering cause I’m considering a Voile Palindrome and trying to get some info on it, not too much out there about that board. As with any rockered board, where the board starts to raise, the grip on the skin stops. With a full cambered board, when you step on the board it flatens out and the entire length of the skin is in contact with the snow. With a rockered board, the only part touching the snow is directly underfoot. You loose a ton of surface area contact with the skin, and therefor loose a fair amount of grip. I have found that using high traction skins (my preference is Voile tractor skins, but G3/Spark are known to also have awesome grip) and carry a set of split crampons, you will be fine. Its basically a small sacrifice that you can overcome with proper skinning technique and good equipment. I think its worth it because the boards float soooo good in the deep! March 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm #666469 rughty 620 Posts Ben Harmon from Sentury Snowboards was acquired by Voile which all the new designs are based from. I have ridden a few of their shapes and the Palendrome (Sentury Sync) was my favorite. March 6, 2013 at 9:47 pm #666470 wavy 198 Posts @chair2boardsports wrote: Neil Provo who has been recently added to their team Hopefully Neil can chime in at some point when he gets some free time, see lots of pics floating around of him on the Artisan. BTW, got my Artisan out on snow for the first time this morning, so far I’m stoked! March 10, 2013 at 1:54 am #666471 provotrout 130 Posts Currently a thread for an Arbor FS.. on CL the owner says: Brand new, still in shrinkwrap, splitboard that i bought for a present to myself. When i sent my Voile in for warranty repairs, i thought they wouldn’t fix or replace it but they did replace it and i liked the Artisan better. not exactly a nuanced review but thought it was interesting. Also, note from buddy on the Artisan I gave him: “playful, bouncy, good pop” The only dig I’ve heard on the new Voiles is on the shapes, which is a valid point. I’d like to see something that is 2/3rds the way from an Artisan to a V-tail, only with sidewall constuction and a S-rocker shape. March 11, 2013 at 2:27 am #666472 boppingshoe 83 Posts Thanks for all the feedback and all your comments have been very helpful. One thing good about living in a ski town is that I can go in the stores and look at the boards in person. So I ended up getting the Palindrome because I think Palindrome has more flex overall than Artisan (I might be wrong). By the way, I’m very impressed by Voile. I don’t know why nobody has written about it, but voile’s new puck alignment guide is AWESOME. You know it’s pain in the ass to set up your Sparks bindings because Voile and Sparks have different binding length? NOT ANYMORE. Voile has changed their system to match Sparks’. That’s a company that puts customers’ convenience before their egos. Imagine that. :thumpsup: Anyway, I’ll write up my own opinion/review on Palindrome once I get it on the snow this week. March 15, 2013 at 8:17 pm #666473 boppingshoe 83 Posts Got few days of riding on Palindrome. This week Montucky is experiencing a melt down, so the conditions started from powder on Monday, to breakable crust, corn and finally wet glop on Thursday. Anyway, I agree with what others said about the ride on Palindrome; stable and responsive. I was carrying an overnight pack, and I felt the board handled the weight pretty well. Most of all, I didn’t feel like I have to muscle the board to make it turn, even when I was feeling tired from a long trip. In ski mode it was as scary as expected when traversing on hard pack slopes, but I guess that’s typical for a rocker board. However, because of its twin shape, the nose has the same flex as the tail. I felt that gave the nose a better grip on firm snow compared to other boards with a softer nose. One thing I didn’t like about the board was its weight. At size 162, the board weight was listed as 8 lb on Voile’s website. So it’s more on the heavier side compared to other boards on the market. I had a Rome White Room before this, so I really felt the added weight. But Palindrome felt sturdier and has more meat to it compared to White Room (lasted 2 seasons). Palindrome seems very well made and high quality in craftsmanship. Overall, Palindrome rides very differently (in the good way) than Voile’s older models like Mojo, thanks to Ben Harmon. I think a lot of people were turned away from Artisan and Palindrome because they didn’t like how Voile boards used to ride (myself included). So Voile might be better off marketing their boards under the name Sentury. Also, with MSRP at $850, the board is not cheap (that used to be THE advantage of buying a Voile board). I might be wrong, I thought Voile boards used to come with skins. So if you minus the $150 for the hardware (which a lot of people don’t use anyway), the board itself is $700. I’m not sure that’s a good pricing for Voile, considering all the competitions out there these days. Despite few flaws, my initial impression for Palindrome was still top notch. The ride was awesome, it handled most conditions pretty well. The skin was good, except on hard pack. The construction of the board was high quality (I love the see-through top sheet and the graphics). I’m quite happy with it. March 28, 2013 at 2:35 am #666474 supermodel159 62 Posts Any updated reviews of the Artisan as the season closes up (north america). March 29, 2013 at 5:04 am #666475 LPowhuntr 102 Posts Anyone had a chance to ride a newer version of the Voile Palindrome Splitboard just wondering if there has been any improvements made, like improvement in ski mode (see lots of complaints about that), possible weight reductions currently 162 is at 8lbs not sure with or without hardware. I considered this board along with a few others and I’m just trying to get some feedback on this one. I hear great things about the construction of the board, wondering how it does on steeps, high speed, jumps, drops, deep pow things like that. Considering Prior AMF and Jones Mtn Twin also. Thanx April 1, 2013 at 12:13 pm #666476 Chef_Ben 134 Posts New Ride: 165 wide Artisan I started on a diy Burton that had no life left on it anyway and broke it buttering over a drop on Mt. Mansfield in VT. This was basic camber wide board. Next was a 166 Mojo Voile that i put about 50 days on in one and a third winters. This was cambered and lots of taper from front to back. The great thing about this board was how it handled in powder. You never had to sit in the back seat and wear you legs out. It was heavy and not overly tough. In the end it began delamming along my heel side edge. In one day it went from oh shit i think my board is starting to separate to, I’ll call Voile and see what they think i should do with a quart of epoxy… Well those boys said send the board in and we’ll assess the damage. Welcome my new 165 wide beautiful board. This board first off its lighter, wider, tighter on board mode, diesel side walls inside and out, and the camber under foot and rocker out makes multiple contact points when pressed along the effective edge. (I’m not tech savvy so pics prob won’t happen) This board holds so tight on crud, it was like carving on brand new magnetraction. The only down hill issue i have is its extreme need for me to sit back in the seat to keep the nose up. I had read that it being a directional twin that i should keep my stance pretty darn centered and it should be great. I have always set up towards the back on all my boards even my banana Skunkape. I think that i will adjust next season to a back seat driver. The skinning and edge hold is killer. I have hiked in some very sketchy terrain and have been able to each my edges in easy and feel super confident when switch backing and side hilling. The two heel risers are sweet and three standard sorry one minted facing the tail is so easy to get up and down. And the giant tall one is tiring to use but i was going strait up some steep powdery slopes easily pushing 30 degree plus. The weight is a little too centered at the toe pivot so when switch backing you do have to work the tip up instead of it just doing it on its own. But it needs like 2cm and then it will be perfect. Ok Mount Washington got 4+ inches i have to go, peace! Oh and sorry in advance i didn’t proof read. April 24, 2013 at 11:28 pm #666477 wavy 198 Posts Been riding my Artisan 162 for a couple months now and have had it out in all kinds of conditions. Really is a great board, very fun to ride. I’ve ridden exclusively cambered boards up until the Artisan so there was a very small learning curve moving to a rockered board, but am now having a blast on it. Really like how easy it is to jump from edge to edge and get up on the nose and tail. I seem to have almost the exact opposite experience as Chef_Ben regarding powder and ice. Found it to require no effort at all to float powder but less than ideal for bullet proof ice… seems to not ride as well on ice as my cambered boards. Also, seems to be a little less reliable than my other boards skinning on ice. But, the more I ride it the more I figure out how to compensate and make it work on hard stuff. I may be having better luck than Chef_Ben with powder due to the fact that I do have my stance set back a bit…. I tried to set it up so that my feet are over the “camber-under-foot” parts of the profile. I’d imagine that would be the ideal place to be set up for hard conditions as well. I’ve had it out a few times a week for the past couple months, bc and resort and so far shows no sign of abuse, still looks new! Sidewalls are holding up nicely even after being bashed against rock once or twice. Stoked on the graphics too, particularly in comparison to the old Voile graphics I’ve been looking at for the last 7 years: Thanks again to sb.com and Voile for hooking me up at the Cali split-party raffle. Oh, and also… I needed to do some hardware re-arranging between this and my old boards and needed a few mounting screws. Voile was kind enough to send them to me in Canada free of charge, thanks! April 25, 2013 at 5:57 pm #666478 HeadyBrosevelt 3 Posts my voile artisan arrived in the mail yesterday, and i took it out for a quick tour after work. i had been riding an old split decision for about 10 years. the difference was shocking. the artisian rides like a dream in pow. it was hard to believe a splitboard could ride so well. i will update when i get bigger tours and different conditions under my belt. so far, my mind is blown away… April 25, 2013 at 7:27 pm #666479 Jefe009 675 Posts I think that’s the best handle I’ve ever seen. Welcome to the board Heady! :rock: www.splitlife.net April 25, 2013 at 8:48 pm #666480 HeadyBrosevelt 3 Posts long time lurker- first time poster. i am getting out on a good tour this weekend with the artisan- i will post more observations. April 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm #666481 HeadyBrosevelt 3 Posts i took the artisan on a four hour tour off of highway 82 in between leadville and aspen. the conditions were full on spring. there was weird juju in the air and many north facing aspects were sliding. my friend and i decided to keep our lines to south facing aspects which avoided weird run outs and terrain traps. some observations: the board is heavy- this is a negative on the up (heavy sucks on the way up), but a positive on the way down (lots of control). the board skinned very well, but not much better than my 10 year old split decision (which i never had a problem skinning with). i thought the board held an edge significantly better than my old board. i had to cross one section of steep, hard packed, wind blown snow and i was able to cross the section efficiently and quickly. i felt the change over was simple and quick- faster and more efficient to change over with the artisan than the split decision. we rode two different big lines (1000+ vert). going down the board rode like a dream. we had perfect cream corn conditions. i could not believe how well the board rode. the rocker/camber mix is perfect. the board responds well. can be buttered a little and has a bit of pop. it felt like i went from riding an old lincoln to a ferrari. so much fun on the way down- and that is the most important observation (imho). i would recommend this board to anyone- i do not think you would be disappointed. another note: i bought another voile for two reasons. the first, i could pro deal voile. the price was right. however, this late in the season, many other brands are offering their boards for pro deal prices (or very close to pro deal prices). the second, and more important, is that my old board lasted me 10+ years. voile makes boards that are built to last and can take a huge beating. if my new board can take half the beating my old board did, i will be so stoked. 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