Forums Splitboards Any opinions on XV Magtek split/NS Prospector?
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  • #785255
    bichito
    5 Posts

    Hello! This a newbie question. I am thinking about getting my first split (if the budget allows) and I have reduced the list of candidates to these two. My solid is a NS Heritage X which I ride mostly at Arapahoe Basin and L-pass on occasion. The idea behind an split is to bc’ing some more and also being able to reach the farther runs of ABasin’s East Wall faster and with less effort (I walk the traverse with a backpack, which is not fun if one has to hike Willie’s Wide straight up)

    I like the idea of a softer tail that allows to burn speed qucikly if needed. But if the prospector is as fun as the Heritage it is almost a no brainer. Quality of the rossi?

    Thanks!

    #785273
    HansGLudwig
    601 Posts

    I’ve never heard of andy QC issues with Rossi and they have a fairly developed ski-side to the company so I assume customers service/returns is up to par.

    Those are two pretty different boards you have narrowed in on. They have literally the opposite camber profile: NS = cam/rock/cam vs Rossi = rock/cam/rock. They’ll ride (and tour) pretty differently in icy/choppy conditions.

    If you like riding NS and “fun” is what you’re looking for, the choice seems obvious to me.
    Not that you can’t have fun on a Magtek 8-P
    What draws you to the Rossi?

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    #785284
    bichito
    5 Posts

    The camber, mag-t and the softer tail.

    The times I have lost an edge have been when there is ice and exactly where the rocker is (center of board) luckily it has not happened on the steeps and in bounds.

    The last thing I want is to lose an edge in the middle of nowhere and endlessly slide. It seems the combination of camber and mag-t should cover most of my inexperience.

    The softer tail seems like a good safety valve when in unknown terrain.

    The different rides do not bother me. My surfboard quiver is pretty diverse and not used lately :-}

    #785295
    bichito
    5 Posts

    Since I have never toured, which one is easier to tour on? Or burns less energy?

    #785298
    HansGLudwig
    601 Posts

    A-Basin and surfboard quiver. . . Ha!

    As I understand it, the Rossi is one of the stiffest boards out there right now, meant for charging in all conditions. It’ll hold an edge, and you’ll have a blast. . . as long as you’re going fast. It’s generally seen as not for beginners or the faint of heart. There are myriad other boards with a similar profile that are more forgiving (but probably won’t rip as well): Jones Solution, Burton Landlord, Prior Backcountry, Voile Revelator, Furberg, etc..) But the Rossi is rad. Don’t let me scare you off it.

    It’s interesting you lost an edge with the cam/rock/cam profile. In theory, with two camber humps underfoot (underfeet) the entire effective edge is supposed to actively engage the snow comparable to a cambered board. Your experience shows one’s milage may vary. (FYI, people loose edges with cambered boards too)

    While touring, experience tells me camber underfoot is absolutely necessary. It actively presses the skin into the snow making it possible to skin. I also live in SoCal with manky, dense, hard, icy snow (and then it turns to sludge after noon). Rocker guarantees the only skin in contact with our snow is directly underfoot; the tip and tail float in the air.
    Experience has also told me touring with rocker is usually not a problem for people in Colorado. Your snow is softer. You sink deeper and have more skin contact while touring. Besides, most people with a rockered board figure the technique out anyway.

    Personally, they are both sick boards.
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    #785326
    bichito
    5 Posts

    Thanks!

    When I lost the edge has always been springtime and early in the day, probably I was asking for it, but in other places ice may be mandatory to reach the sweet fluff.

    Pissing contests: I like to look dumber than I am. I don’t need to count inches :-}

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    #785524
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Hi Jose,

    I have not ridden the XV, so will leave that to others. But, I have lots of experience on the Prospector, including icy 50 degree plus descents. I am very, very impressed with both the edge hold, the confidence which the NS Prospector gives the rider in technical icy steeps, and I would not hesitate to recommend it for those conditions. I would; take the Prospector to the most daunting, extreme, exposed steeps with confidence.

    #785586
    bichito
    5 Posts

    thanks!

    I have checked the width of the xv. It’s 5mm narrower than the Heritage X that I ride (26,9 vs 26,4) that seems like a deal breaker. So l started to look at furberg too. I will see.

    #786032
    David Lombardi
    2 Posts

    Jose, I am also very interested in the Rossi XV Magtek. Im leaning toward it for its shape but also because Rossi is the only company I can a pro deal on through my work here in Tahoe. I was happy to see this thread but was hoping for more information on this split. The web is very thin on reviews, photos and reports with this board. If anyone has info on this split I would still be interested in your knowledge. Thanks!

    #786093
    Draizuh
    61 Posts

    Ive got the original model Rossi XV which only came out as 167 and ive got K-clips and 2010/11 voile light rails and fitwell backcountry boots. There is a review on my blog somewhere but i wrote that a while ago. Ive been riding it for atleast 2 seasons now and i absolutely love it.
    I love the camber for touring and i find it gives excellent bite on what is usually terrible snow here in NZ for touring on. Icy sidehills are pretty much the only thing on offer down here and the XV handles it well.
    the magnetraction is awesome on the downhill and i feel like it gives me a bit more confidence to rip that little bit harder on sketchy snow that others seem to be a bit more hesitant on.
    I also rode it for 3 weeks in Japan earlier this year and it slayed it in the deep pow.
    As far as riding style goes, i like to go fast 🙂

    QC wise i have had one snap but it was replaced FOC. Only one ski snapped and im not entirely sure how but i believe the timbercores are fingerjointed which doesnt exactly rule..

    #786614
    Bennett
    6 Posts

    Just bought the 163 XV and am in love with it. it sets an edge like its on train tracks and charges over crud and chop with almost too much confidence. rode it at a resort for it’s fist day on snow and you need some serious legs to not let it take you for a ride. my comparable resort board is my custom x and it is a wet noodle compared to the XV. i wouldnt call the tail soft at all. the tail is stiff and the nose is stiffer. the reverse camber makes the tail feel a little more soft than it actually is on landings but any hard mogul sections require careful line selection.

    I’ll have some backcountry time on it this weekend and can get you some more useful insight

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    #786664
    moridinbg
    151 Posts

    I just got the XV in 167. I won’t have the opportunity to ride until January 🙁 but initial impressions – it’s ultra stiff. At least as stiff as the previous Venture Odin. The tail is not noticeably softer.

    It also came with the Plum hooks (I am in France), which on one hand are much better than the chinese hooks from Voile in terms of pulling the halves together, but don’t rotate in tour mode, which may be a concern on icy traverses.
    Also, what’s with the weird micro-swallowtail thing on the back? Does it provide any advantage in anything? It looks like it’s way too little to affect floatation.

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