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  • #789429
    buell
    534 Posts

    I have now ridden the Milligram in steeper, challenging snow conditions. For me, it is easily the best splitboard I have ridden. It feels like a very well behaved extension of my feet.

    Conditions one day were old, wind hammered, winter snow. It was a decent amount of smooth, slippery bulletproof wind scour mixed with dense, wind affected powder pockets. Many turns had a combination of everything so there were lots of transitions between snow types. Conditions on another day were similar, but one side of the run was over ripe corn.

    Snow type transitions are smooth and the board does not get kicked around. It seems the lightweight (combined with other design elements?) actually allows me to dictate where the board goes instead of the other way around, even in the mixed conditions. This is the opposite of what I thought could be the case.

    Edge hold is great which inspires tons of confidence. Even on the steeper smooth wind scour, it had great grip. The downhill slide after a jump turn was predictable, easy to control, and the board locked back in quickly.

    Jump turns and handling in tight spaces are so easy with the low weight. It is the most fun I have had in steeper and tight conditions. The quick handling gives me more freedom to decide how to ride the line.

    Feedback on firm snow is just not an issue. The edge stays engaged and there is no chatter.

    Unfortunately, breakable crust still sucks.

    I have hit a number of rocks now but nothing too hard. No damage out of the ordinary so far.

    My Milligram came with a 0 to 1 degree base edge bevel which is pretty aggressive for a freeride board and could catch. I tuned the base edge to 1 degree and have now detuned the nose and tail edges to about 1” past the wide points with a gummy stone. It seems to be working well.

    The lines. For scale, the chute is about 2500 vert.

    I rode the center diagonal line headed from right to left. Also about 2500 vert.

    #789637
    Scooby2
    610 Posts

    Matt,
    What’s the story with your Amplid? In the warranty process or does it need some Scooby2 surgery? It sounds like they are going to take care of you. I’d be interested in seeing how it failed since I’ve been making lighter and lighter carbon splits and haven’t been doing any destructive testing or had any fail yet.

    It is certain that they need a little touch-up now and then without having a nylon or other kind of topsheet.

    #789682
    buell
    534 Posts

    Some of this I covered in an edited post on page 1.

    Scooby, they would take care of him if his story was true. I don’t expect any photos or other proof, because after looking into Matt’s story through a number of different channels, it is almost certainly fabricated, clearly in an attempt to make Amplid look bad in order to benefit someone else.

    Matt has not yet contacted Amplid about his supposedly cracked board even though Rich from Amplid told him to get in touch with them on 2/4 in this thread.

    Matt, please post images or correspondence with Amplid to support your story. Again, I will happily apologize if I am wrong.

    This is really unfortunate, because I personally know four riders, including myself, with Lab Carbon Splits or Milligrams. The story Matt describes does not resemble any of our experiences with Amplid. We have all found them to be very responsive, with top notch customer service. They would have taken care of Matt in a heartbeat if he had the issues he described.

    Buell

    #789701
    mgco3
    50 Posts

    I bought a Lab Carbon split in past june and used it for two one-day-missions so far, last weekend and today. It rides really well. I could test it in up to 50cm fresh powder, really wet and heavy snow and a few meters in the resort while getting back to the car. The real difference compared to my previous boards is noticeable during the ascent, the reduced weight makes a big difference.
    In total, I couldn’t imagine a board perform better right now. I don’t have any experience according durability so far, but I am really happy to hear about their great customer service.

    Amplid Milligram 163, Tour Operator 159 & LabCarbon 162, Phantom Alphas 14/15, Atomic Backland w/ Phantom LinkLevers
    https://mgco3.wordpress.com, https://www.instagram.com/conathanjumpman/

    #790303
    buell
    534 Posts

    Over 20 tours now on my Milligram in all kinds of snow and wide variety of terrain. Not much has changed from my earlier reviews. The board handles a wide range of conditions very well and the lightweight is so nice while both touring and riding. As might be expected, the 158 functions, but does not excel in legitimately knee deep, low angle powder. I am considering trying the 163 for the low angle, high avy danger conditions.

    Two main things concerned me when I bought the Milligram to try out.

    One was, how much feedback is this carbon board with a lightweight core going to have? I thought it might feel brittle in some conditions. As I wrote earlier in this review, feedback is just not an issue. While it is not the same feel of a heavy, dampened board, this board is plenty damp and does not chatter for me.

    Durability was my other main concern. The Eastern Sierra winter is hard on boards with all of its wind and granite. My G3 lasted about 20 tours before I broke it. I have now done plenty of riding over rocks, skinning over rocks, , and any number of other mildly destructive things to my Milligram. It is holding up beautifully.

    The edges have predictable rock damage in line with other boards I have owned. I rode onto a nasty, pointy topped granite rock that was under the powder the other day. I knew it would be bad and it did leave a deep gouge, but it was not a core shot (being lightweight helps). So far, the base damage from hitting quite a few rocks seems typical compared to other boards I have owned. Aside from the one deep gouge, everything else is minor scrapes.

    Next year’s Milligram has a narrow top sheet around the deck perimeter to protect the carbon at the edges. Regardless, my Milligram, with just carbon on top looks better than any split I have had after twenty tours. There is no chipping, no dents, and no marks of any significance. I am stoked.

    Wind. Rocks. Dammit Jimw, this wasn’t in the forecast!
    photo jimw

    #794161
    wjb
    163 Posts

    Does anyone know when the new Milligrams will be available for purchase?

    #794169
    buell
    534 Posts

    Man, the season turned quick.

    I just sent them an email about a 163 last night. Gregor said he would get back to me next week when he is in the office. I can post what I find out. You might get a quicker response emailing the address on their website though.

    #794579
    Amplid
    23 Posts

    In case anybody is interested, we sent Blister a Milligram to put through its paces towards the end of last winter. Blister’s tester Andrew Forward spent 45 days in the AK backcountry on the board. Here’s the link:

    Blister Gear Review – Amplid Milligram 16/17

    The new boards should be rolling of the production line into our warehouse and then out to retailers around the end of October. Thanks for the interest and support!

    #794892
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    Thanks for the review. Eager to try out this deck this season !

    #797427
    stoudema
    550 Posts

    Pulled the trigger on the Amplid 163 split and recently got out on it for my first day. All I can say so far is wow. The thing tours like a dream, and rides even better. I was testing it in the resort, and made the first couple of runs down steep (40-45 degree) chopped snow. Then it was a couple of groomers, followed by avalanche work on the backside of the local hill (where I patrol at). Because the backside lift wasn’t running, I needed to do the control work in two runs via skinning with a couple other patrollers. Then, the lift opened later in the day, so I made a dozen or so runs lift assisted to end the day.

    Normally, I don’t notice any different feeling about a split when riding in the backcountry, but when making multiple runs in the resort on a solid board and then taking out the split, I can tell a difference. With the Miligram, I couldn’t tell a difference…it was the first split I’ve ridden inbounds that rides like a solid. On the couple of laps I skinned with it toured nicely, like a normal split in that regard, but much lighter underfoot, which was definitely welcome. I can’t wait to test out the board in icier conditions, and will report back here if I remember to. So far I’m very happy with the board….

    Matt

    #797568
    Will Stingley
    2 Posts

    Have a question about the milligram sizing, as I feel like I’m in between sizes.

    I’m 6’3″, 185lbs, size US12 boot.

    I feel like the 168 is too long but the 163 is too narrow.

    How did you guys figure out which size to buy?

    Thx

    #797573
    buell
    534 Posts

    Where do you ride and in what conditions?

    What board and size have you been riding?

    At size 12 boot and 6’3, it seems like you would have to go with the 168. Maybe Stoudema can chime in, he had to decide between the 158 and 163 and ended up with the 163.

    #797604
    Will Stingley
    2 Posts

    Buell,
    I’m in Summit County Colorado. Mostly doing 2-3 hour low/medium angle tours with some longer and/or steeper stuff once in a while.

    My daily driver is a 163 mid wide board and I like how much snappier it is in the trees that my previous 169 board.

    The milligram 163 waist width is 10cm more narrow than my current 163 (NS Legacy solid).

    This is my first split coming back from giving AT skiing a shot (eek!)

    #797624
    stoudema
    550 Posts

    Hi Will,

    I usually ride a 160 cm board and opted for the 163 cm Miligram. Looking at the specs in my case, everything about the 163 was pretty identical to most of the 160 cm boards I’ve ridden in the past with the exception of the overall length, meaning the extra few centimeters were in the nose and not in contact with the snow unless i’m floating in the pow. So far I’ve found the extra length not to be an issue. I’d check all the specs on the 168 and compare it to what you’re currently on.

    Given your foot size, I’d think you would want the extra waist width if you do go with the amplid. The length in my case seems to go un-noticed due to the fact that the board is so much lighter than my other splits and the specs are closer to a smaller board as mentioned above….

    #797764
    DEAGOL
    48 Posts

    I was fortunate enough to borrow an Amplid Miligram for one day last season at a splitboard gathering. I was impressed by the light weight of the board but was a bit nervous dropping into some terrain that was a bit intimidating to me to ride on a board that I had no experience with. The conditions were a bit mixed: somewhat “chalk” like snow in the shaded parts of the chute turning to some avy debris heavy snow one we got out into the sun exposed lower slope.

    I did not know how firm the snow was before dropping in, so I made the decision to ride with a Whippet in my hand (which always makes me a bit sketched out). If I could do it over, I would have gone without it. Thanks to John Keffler for loaning me this awesome light board !!

    #798076
    summersgone
    814 Posts

    Nice Deagol! I’m a big fan of the turkey chute. I don’t have an amplid, but I did just get a Prior XTC Slasher 162, and with all the phantom stuff on it, it comes in at 9.9lbs, lighter than my solid! I did a quick few strides last year on the amplid and was blown away though, its friggen light! I had to tell Keffler to take it back because it was going to jade me forever. One thing I’d be concerned with on the Amplids is durability in the San Juans. It just seems light, we smash rocks sometimes. Anyways, I don’t know much about it, but curious to try it at the next splitfest if given the chance.

    #798332
    buell
    534 Posts

    That looks like a fun line Deagol! Great snow for testing a board too, but not necessarily for making the first turn on a new board.

    I ended up adding a 163 for the deep, low angle days. Generally I like a powder specific board for those conditions, but between being spoiled by the light weight of the 158 and needing a board for deep powder that still handles mixed conditions well (the Eastern Sierra is nearly always mixed conditions), I went a size up on the Milligram. I was also interested in trying it for general riding. They are so light, I figured I could throw it around like a smaller board.

    I rode it for the first time a couple of days ago. I am 148 pounds and 5’9″

    Predictably, the 158 and 163 have the same board feel and versatility. The 163 definitely floats better, rides stiffer, makes bigger turns, and is less agile. In the good tree powder I was riding, it is still plenty agile to ride fast. It just requires more effort to do it than the 158.

    Overall I am stoked to have the float of the 163 for deep days. For my size though, the 158 will be my go to board for all other conditions.

    #799781
    Pika
    1 Posts

    I never thought I’d really love a splitboard. I love the backcountry, but figured that the weight feel of the board would never be better than o.k. for me. The Milligram has changed my tune and given me the confidence to take on terrain and conditions that I would have avoided on another board.

    I am 5’4″, 125#. I ride Phantoms and modified TLT6s (the only setup that works well for my tiny hooves). I’m an experienced, but not super aggressive rider. I’ve ridden about a half dozen splits. All of the boards felt somewhat unpredictable, with turns somewhere between imprecise and “where is this thing taking me?” Inbounds, I have no issues riding solid boards up to 160-something, so unpredictability was disconcerting! I could compensate a little by riding a smaller board, like a 154 freeride shape, but that led to submarining in deep snow, and I lacked the confidence to venture beyond moderately challenging lines.

    Enter the Amplid Milligram. I was a skeptic at first. How could it be that much better? Buell let me skin his 158 Milligram one day last year, and I was blown away by how much lighter it was than my 154 Jones Solution. But still, for someone of my skill level and ambition, was it worth it?

    YES. Buell is obviously a convert and insisted on getting a Milli for me to try. Wow. The benefits are pretty obvious on the up (less work = more speed and/or more vert, kick turns so easy). But the board really blows me away on the ride. It is light, nimble, responsive and downright playful. It does what I want, when I want, even in variable snow, even in trees, even on steeps, even on all of the above. I can approach challenging (for me) terrain with confidence because I know that the board will respond.

    If I could change one thing about the Milligram, it would be the black carbon non-topsheet. On days when snow wants to stick to the top sheet, it seems like the Milli crusts up a little earlier and more often than some other designs, and requires more frequent scraping.

    I have never had as much fun in the backcountry as I’ve had this year, and I’m actually excited to ride lines that would have intimidated me before. I *love* the Milligram and highly recommend it for lightweights or anyone who likes a seriously fun board.

    #799853
    mgco3
    50 Posts

    nice write-ups here, thumbs up!
    my Lab Carbon Split is holding up well so far, despite hitting some rocks… After approximately 20-30 days on it I have no concerns about durability so far. And it still rides awesome 🙂

    Amplid Milligram 163, Tour Operator 159 & LabCarbon 162, Phantom Alphas 14/15, Atomic Backland w/ Phantom LinkLevers
    https://mgco3.wordpress.com, https://www.instagram.com/conathanjumpman/

    #800743
    DEAGOL
    48 Posts

    I think I would love this board if I had more time on it. I have to agree that the kick turns were super easy. I loved the light weight on the ride down, also..

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