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  • #627314
    aksltxlt
    621 Posts

    @snurfer“] At least we aren’t stalking them <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt= wrote:

    LOL.. Snurfer is on point, all the knob gobbling for these new companies is funny, let these new kids on the block have thir shit tested by splitters worldwide and once their shit is proven you kids can gobble to your hearts content

    #627315
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @russman wrote:

    I think the one who needs to grow up here is you, Wasatch.

    Absolutely no need to attack Rughty. Cut out the hating dude!

    What is up with you guys defending Voile so much? I mean seriously.. Sure they have supported splitting when nobody else has, but the bottom line is that there simply hasn’t been any true innovation for years. Isn’t it about time that new options were available for splitters? Particularly one’s that raise the bar for performance?

    little late to the party aren’t we?

    i’m 22 so i’ll be as immature as i want

    absolutely no need for completely irrational judgments on the company that is responsible for you being able to splitboard.

    i’m not hating anyone(plus thats funny coming from you, you have had nothing positive to say unless its about jones or karakoram). i’m just saying know what the fuck you are talking about before you start talking.

    i agree voile could be more on top of their shit. if you would take the time to read any old post on here you would see that we have criticized voile as much as we have defended them.

    but i do defend voile because without their willingness to take a gamble on a cut in half snowboard with door hinges screwed in the middle…we would probably be on weird ass 3 piece euro boards. also they are handmade by friends of mine right here on 2636 South 2700 West Salt Lake City, UT 84119 USA, not in some third world country by 11 year olds.

    progression is cool, but i’m happy with what i have and what i have is reliable, american made, affordable splitboard and avy gear. karakoram and jones don’t raise anything for me. i like hard boots so when karakoram gives me an option maybe i’ll take a look. and i guess jones does raise one thing, the price for an over hyped board that completely contradicts their “green” image by being made in a sweat shop that requires thousands of extra miles of shipping supplies and product just so they can save a few bucks with cheap labor.

    russman i really don’t give a fuck if you ever like voile or the wasatch or hardboots or whatever else you want to bitch about. but you asked why i defend voile so there you go. some people will never see eye to eye and thats cool. so i hope you have a great season and all your new gear gives you the “stoke” you need to be happy.

    i’ll just be thuggin on the skin tracks of wasangeles with my super corporate voile.

    #627316
    rughty
    620 Posts

    Wasatch, you definitely have a point with Jones board production. I would rather have a board made right here in the US. I could care less about “green”. That is just hippy talk to me, but if that’s the image you are striving for, then be true to it. As far as Voile goes… I respect them for getting after it back in the day, but without new product innovation, they will eventually be over taken by companies with more desire to grow and serve us, the end user. After all, we are the ones who pay their bills! That is just simple and good business ethic. Maybe they don’t want to be the top dog anymore??? Or perhaps you are stoked on some insider info from those friends of yours that you can’t discuss publicly?!

    #627317
    aksltxlt
    621 Posts

    For me the splitboard has brought back the old school snowboard vibe of yesteryear, and has refreshed my stoke. In skateboarding and surfing there is so much RESPECT for the older generation of riders and companies. Why is snowboarding different? Are the people less core, too many gapers? I guess you can patent “fun” with snowboarding

    #627318
    ehcarley
    411 Posts

    What I don’t get is how you guys are so hyped on a set of bindings that cost more than my splitboard did. They may be the best thing since sliced bread, but if I’m choosing between buying a new board and dropping $900ish or new bindings and spending $600, I’m going for the board.

    I can only hope Karakoram will be able to bring the price down as they scale up. But selling bindings at $600 is absurd. I mean, what does a good set of Dynafits cost? not $600.

    I am considering getting the clips to replace the Chinese hooks, but no way will I ever drop that much cash on a set of bindings. Spending the $300 for Sparks was painful enough.

    #627319
    jeri534
    159 Posts

    @ehcarley wrote:

    What I don’t get is how you guys are so hyped on a set of bindings that cost more than my splitboard did. They may be the best thing since sliced bread, but if I’m choosing between buying a new board and dropping $900ish or new bindings and spending $600, I’m going for the board.

    I can only hope Karakoram will be able to bring the price down as they scale up. But selling bindings at $600 is absurd. I mean, what does a good set of Dynafits cost? not $600.

    I am considering getting the clips to replace the Chinese hooks, but no way will I ever drop that much cash on a set of bindings. Spending the $300 for Sparks was painful enough.

    Well if you figure in that the Karakorams come with the board and tip/tail clips, it’s only about $100 more than a voile/spark setup, yeah it’s still expensive but if their product turns out to be all that its hyped up to be then $100 is nothing for that much of an improvement

    #627320
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    It helps to have disposable income. One good thing about being a working stiff I guess. I was due for new bindings and decided to try the new setup, which looks well tested and offers some nice improvements on the old split design. Plus I am tech/gear whore :disco: . I often wish I was still a dirtbag though, I would trade my 9-5 for more time off and a DIY with traditional snowboard bindings. The wife didnt go for it though. Not that this belongs in the voile thread….

    #627321
    jeri534
    159 Posts

    heh, I need to realize I just quit my job to snowboard and stop spending my skibum funds :banghead:

    #627322
    ehcarley
    411 Posts

    @jeri534 wrote:

    Well if you figure in that the Karakorams come with the board and tip/tail clips, it’s only about $100 more than a voile/spark setup, yeah it’s still expensive but if their product turns out to be all that its hyped up to be then $100 is nothing for that much of an improvement

    Wait, they come with a board? :scratch:

    #627323
    Ecobrad
    2068 Posts

    I’m not sure what jeri meant but the apples to apples comparison is the Voile hardware ($160) and Spark bindings ($299) vs. Karakoram ($599). Looks like Voile/Spark combo is $140 cheaper.

    @ehcarley wrote:

    @jeri534 wrote:

    Well if you figure in that the Karakorams come with the board and tip/tail clips, it’s only about $100 more than a voile/spark setup, yeah it’s still expensive but if their product turns out to be all that its hyped up to be then $100 is nothing for that much of an improvement

    Wait, they come with a board? :scratch:

    #627324
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @aksltxlt wrote:

    For me the splitboard has brought back the old school snowboard vibe of yesteryear, and has refreshed my stoke. In skateboarding and surfing there is so much RESPECT for the older generation of riders and companies. Why is snowboarding different? Are the people less core, too many gapers? I guess you can patent “fun” with snowboarding

    x2 Gospel :thumpsup:

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #627325
    maniacdave
    564 Posts

    Think he meant the board clips Karakoram has come up with.

    That was Pontus

    #627326
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @rughty wrote:

    Wasatch, you definitely have a point with Jones board production. I would rather have a board made right here in the US. I could care less about “green”. That is just hippy talk to me, but if that’s the image you are striving for, then be true to it. As far as Voile goes… I respect them for getting after it back in the day, but without new product innovation, they will eventually be over taken by companies with more desire to grow and serve us, the end user. After all, we are the ones who pay their bills! That is just simple and good business ethic. Maybe they don’t want to be the top dog anymore??? Or perhaps you are stoked on some insider info from those friends of yours that you can’t discuss publicly?!

    i have no insider info 🙁 and i agree that now is the time for them to decide where they want to end up in the splitboard game. besides the splitboarding interface the best thing voile has done for splitboarders is the swallowtail. so at least I would like voile to bring back the swallowtail, as that would be a unique product that currently no other split company is producing. sparks and the light rail are just a temporary fix. sparks are cool, but really guys on here have been making DIY versions of the ignition for years(check some of the really old post in the DIY section, there are some wacky things that have been bolted on to slider plates) besides sparks is dependent on the continuation of the voile interface. so if all these new interfaces/bindings designs take off you can kiss spark r&d goodbye(unless of course they are willing to work with Will, which i hope can happen). the light rail was better that spark r&d back in the ignition II days, but the fuse and blaze are probably a step ahead. but really why are companies still wasting their time with 1990’s strap technology? if you want progression and all that bullshit someone needs to throw down and develop an integrated split specific boot/binding combo. i tried to push that when i was at voile and everytime i see dave i remind him of that. to voile’s credit the did explore some options in that direction, but at that time it wasn’t meant to be.

    i think spark r&d and karakorum are awesome for taking chances and stepping into the game, but i just don’t think they are the end all, be all of splitboarding. however i am excited about what they can do in the future and i hope voile will be up there with them.

    #627327
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    besides the splitboarding interface the best thing voile has done for splitboarders is the swallowtail. so at least I would like voile to bring back the swallowtail, as that would be a unique product that currently no other split company is producing.

    X2…. although Prior makes an ST split…. but its……. well its not the same.

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #627328
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    oh yeah i forgot they did. i’ve never seen anyone on one though.

    #627329
    ehcarley
    411 Posts

    I think we will begin to see more money for R&D come into splitboarding as it grows in popularity. It seems to be taking off and Deeper will help that. With money comes improving tech. I know a lot of you guys want a step in binding. I have no interest, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. The feel would be different and every experience I have had with step ins has been unfailing negative.

    What I want is what most us agree on, a boot that will accept a crampon, have a vibram sole and work great for booting up a cooly or shreding pillows lines.

    Oh, and if stuff didn’t cost an arm and leg that would be nice too…

    #627330
    Stagger Lee
    242 Posts

    Dearest Voile,

    +1 on the swallow tail. I have the bread set aside and everything. Just waiting for Voile to realize that the swallow tail should never go away. Don’t make me go buy a Prior and paint flames on it. http://www.priorsnowboards.com/boards_swallowtail_splitboard.php

    If there’s no Voile swallowtail available by the end of the calendar year I will go spend $1200+ on a NS Summit or Venture.

    Also, the people on here talking as if Voile has made no progress in there offerings obviously haven’t been exposed to each generation of the Split Decision offered since season one. The difference between the Cloud Model and the rockered-Mojo is much akin to comparing an old Commodore computer to those used today, and calling Voile “big business” or what ever is fucking stupid.

    Oh, and thanks for making each and every one of your products here in the in the States rather shipping shit overseas in the name of making extra coin. Fuck that shit.

    Oh yeah, one more thing. Splitter skins should cost no more than your other skins. Especially when you offer two sizes whose total surface area is greater than that of the splitter skins. Come one, don’t make me go buy a competitor’s skins. The tip hardware is identical. I have a pair of both. WTF.

    Regards,

    :twocents:

    #627331
    russman
    689 Posts

    HIJACK

    #627332
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    neat

    #627333
    pow_hnd
    82 Posts

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    karakoram and jones don’t raise anything for me. i like hard boots so when karakoram gives me an option maybe i’ll take a look. and i guess jones does raise one thing, the price for an over hyped board that completely contradicts their “green” image by being made in a sweat shop that requires thousands of extra miles of shipping supplies and product just so they can save a few bucks with cheap labor.

    Dan! The Jones boards are not made in a sweat shop… They are made in the 125 year old family owned and operated Nidecker Factory in Switzerland…

    @ty_bee

    @801splitters

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